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  1. Henk Boshoff
    November 13, 2018

    Can the two government archaeologists be charged for their poor conduct and oversight for what must be a monumental discovery? Will the archaeologists working on African finds be asked to investigate the skulls (they at least appear to take archeology seriously – or will this find threaten their egos – I mean theories?)

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  2. Heather Tyler
    October 20, 2018

    The Aboriginees of Australia keep saying that they were here when the First Sunrise came to Earth thus they would have been living in Darkness & therefore been ‘Nocturnal’ & this could explain the large eyes.

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  3. Heather Tyler
    October 20, 2018

    THANK YOU …. YES …. I KNEW IT … Just YEARS of research …. the reason Africa has been touted as the Origin is not because of Real Science or Facts but only due to the fact that ancient human remains have been found there. The reason is that Africa is a very Young continent therefore it has a lot of sediment left. Australia is an Ancient Land therefore very little Sediment is left here thus not much left to be found (easily). But you have nailed it. There is a LOT more to be found here yet, I am sure of it. I also believe that Antarctica is important & if the snow & ice melts much will be revealed. Also the Ancient Denisovan line is only traceable in the Papua New Guinean’s. Then the remains of ‘someone’ that was found in Indonesia that is not human in that it does not have human DNA at all. The world came to Australia for Spiritual teachings, knowledge & understanding ie fact that Ancient Egyptians visited our shores and were geographically knowledgeable ie mapped the world. This is why Archaeologists are coming to Oz looking looking looking for remains. Thank God that this Farmer was an honourable man & did the Right thing by not accepting ‘government’ bulldust & wanted to know more & sought experts for answers. Thanks to that Farmer. Just reading another comment re: large eyes for nocturnal animals — remember Indigenous saying that they were here when the First Sunrise happened so they were alive Before the First Sunrise thus they would have been Nocturnal as they lived in Darkness until this came.

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  4. Heather Tyler
    October 20, 2018

    THANK YOU …. YES …. I KNEW IT … Just YEARS of research …. the reason Africa has been touted as the Origin is not because of Real Science or Facts but only due to the fact that ancient human remains have been found there. The reason is that Africa is a very Young continent therefore it has a lot of sediment left. Australia is an Ancient Land therefore very little Sediment is left here thus not much left to be found (easily). But you have nailed it. There is a LOT more to be found here yet, I am sure of it. I also believe that Antarctica is important & if the snow & ice melts much will be revealed. Also the Ancient Denisovan line is only traceable in the Papua New Guinean’s. Then the remains of ‘someone’ that was found in Indonesia that is not human in that it does not have human DNA at all. The world came to Australia for Spiritual teachings, knowledge & understanding ie fact that Ancient Egyptians visited our shores and were geographically knowledgeable ie mapped the world. This is why Archaeologists are coming to Oz looking looking looking for remains. Thank God that this Farmer was an honourable man & did the Right thing by not accepting ‘government’ bulldust & wanted to know more & sought experts for answers. Thanks to that Farmer.

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  5. Gary Opit
    December 12, 2017

    Congratulations on what appears to be a most important & wonderful discovery! I was looking forward to attending the meeting at the Mullumbimby Civic Centre tonight 12 December but Duncan Roads told me that it has been cancelled. Is that true, can you contact me & tell me if another meeting is planned? I might come along anyway in case it is still happening. I attended an illustrated talk by you both, Steven & Evan Strong, at Robert & Irene’s castle near Uki some years ago.

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  6. Umbare Kintsugi
    December 1, 2017

    Well, I can see what are clearly suture lines in a couple of these photographs.

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  7. Sanja Korlaet
    November 26, 2017

    Hi Steven &Steven,
    The skull craniums without sagittal sutures are rare but known to exist in human adults. If there are no sutures at all I wonder how did this individual survived to adulthood if he/she was born like this. The other alternative could be that sutures were all there but for some reason all fused up when the individual reached the adulthood. This is a mystery in any case.

    Large eye sockets are fit for large eyes and in animal world this would mean the creature is nocturnal. I don’t know what this means in hominids. Have they come from some other, darker environment or they were nocturnal?

    Having light bones and very long arms could mean that creature was possibly a quadruped. This is just an idea that could be tested by appropriate specialist.

    These bones could be dated using AMS radiocarbon technique if they decide to test for age. The most reliable company in the Southern hemisphere is Waikato Radiocarbon Dating Laboratory in New Zealand costing NZ725. Radiocarbon dating is used for organic samples not expected to exceed calibrated or calendar years (up to 50,000 old). This would clear up the confusion of burial date.

    Considering that they have the tooth given by elders, using a stable isotope analysis it is possible to figure what was the diet and geographic origin that includes the water source used and altitude levels this individual lived at. I have seen molar teeth of the shape they have in their possession but I am not sure on its size and what size jaw would it fit. It is not clear which skull does it belong to.

    Burial age estimation by authors is a bit circumstantial. If their conclusion is based on the age of the land shift that moved the grave site away from the river bank, they need to find comparable graves of the area that would be positioned near the river to show this was the custom of that era, before 30, 000 years ago. That would constitute a relative method of dating. For absolute date they need to do the radiocarbon dating test. At this stage, we have no burial date.

    There is obviously a lot that needs and could be done.

    Well done and thumbs up to the authors on taking the photos and recording the in situ material at the burial site. Hopefully, bones were handled with gloves and stored in dry bags away from sun light. Thumbs down to so called anthropologists that came, had a look and possibly threw away a find of the century.

    I am not sure if I can help as I need more experience with bone handling. You probably need someone with Honours or Masters degree in bioarchaeology. I am planing to get mine by the end of 2020.

    Kind regards,

    Sanja Korlaet BSc(Hons)BL Archaeology

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    • Sophie Sobreiro
      September 6, 2018

      I m very intereted by this story. Has DNA tasting been done? With science we could know , now a lot more about this.
      Could I get more info about that?
      I m Sophie Sobreiro from France, and my mail is : sophiesobreiro@gmail.com
      Thanks a lot

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    • Simon Ruszczak
      December 5, 2018

      There is only one problem with radiocarbon dating, if the yardstick it uses to measure age is wrong, all other measurements of age will be off by the same magnitude as the yardstick. It will still give the correct relative timeline between events, but not the correct age.
      There is nothing wrong with the actual science of radiocarbon dating, it works, but it relies on the “science” of archaeology to get a yardstick foundation measurement of real time.
      The yardstick of used is the assumed date of 79AD for the destruction of Pompeii by the Mount Vesuvius volcanic eruption. Modern analysis of historic timelines by Dr Anatoly Fomenko indicates the eruption event may have been as resent 200 to 300 years ago, making any dating using the older date, off (older) by 5 to 6 times in age. Radiocarbon dating, calibrated using the incorrect age of one event.

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  8. Anne walker
    November 21, 2017

    Why would the authorities just disregard them in this manner it makes no sense?

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  9. Annagrace
    November 21, 2017

    Hi Steven, what a fascinating article about a very exciting find. It is reminiscent of Lloyd Pye’s –‘Starchild Skull’–two totally different skeletons buried together. I hope you do not have any of the problems Lloyd Pye had in trying to get them assessed properly. Is there any arrangement yet made for carbon dating I wonder? Good luck with it all. I would come to Mullumbimby for the meeting but will be in Victoria at that time.

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  10. Stephen Toneguzzo
    November 20, 2017

    – The big eyes make one think of Wandjina.
    – The long arms and delicate frame, Mimi (might explain the kangaroo fur).
    – Analyse the Teeth Enamel for traces of pollen, or grains, etc. to identify if what was eaten was from the same region the skeletons were found.
    – Check the bones for radioactivity.
    – If you have any way to know the exact direction they were facing, look as they would look, and see what features of the landscape present themselves.

    Keep up the good work!

    The truth is out there.

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