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Enter the world where most mainstream academics fear to tread.......We are blessed to have such renowed international speakers Klaus Dona and Bob Newton for our 2nd Webinar. Coupled with Original custodians:- Ramindjeri Spokespeople (Christine Walker, Wirritjin Stephen Robertson and Curt Mountain) with award winning musician and activist Jingki (Kerrianne Cox).
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Congratulations to Peter Mungkuri!

He is the winner of the inaugural 2017 Hadley’s Art prize - the world’s richest landscape art prize valued at $100,000.

“This is my story about that creek at Fregon, I was born there. Back then we lived in the bush, slept in the warm sand and we lived on the bush tucker. That place is where it all started, that was my home. I love this country, it has watched us Anangu (people) for many years, it is wise country.” - Mungkuri on his artwork Ngura Wiru (Good Country)
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Alan VanArsdale

There is a lot of speculation about Asiatic origins from Homo, but same as Africa, not a lot of fossil evidence for this. It has been proposed (in the professional literature), Lufengpithecus might be ancestral to Homo, an Asiatic ape that was fully bipedal, and has Oldowan grade tool association, millions of years before any African ape is known to be bipedal. Myself I think Homo hybridized with Lufengpithecus in Asia, art about the same time genetic evidence indicates Chimps hybridized with Homo (presumably in Africa).

Decades ago gigantopithecines were considered to be Homo or near Homo. There are a few bones known from them since they were removed as our new relatives thanks to politics more than anything. Their removal as close relatives of Homo is political, not based upon morphology, they came to be thought to be too old and in the wrong place to be closely related to Homo or be a form of Homo. Dental morphological analysis, other than to evaluate things like age of the individual and diet, has been a dying art under pressure from cladistics which suddenly needs things like facial fossae and complete skulls and throws out most of the rest (a problem science did not have before). But do we really have this luxury to ignore important evidence because it might be tainted by factors such as convergent evolution? We need to work with what we have, not just what current science has the ability to evaluate well without a lot of uncertainty (bad for getting grants to be uncertain, and can harm ones career if you guess wrong, especially against prevailing opinions).

The fossil evidence now directs us to look farther back into time than has been thought in recent decades, and in places other than Africa,for the origins of Homo. Are these origins hidden from us, or partly before our eyes, now that it is understood by professionals there are no ancestral forms to Homo in Africa (the sun of Australopithecus has set). So gigantopithecus needs to be revisited in the light of new fossil evidence, as potentially being Homo or a close relative of Homo, and the possibility gorillas are after all a type of gigantopithecine and of Asiatic origins. We should not let the modern literature confuse us too much, we should look at the fossils, with an open mind that not all things which contradict current opinions of professionals is correctly refuted by invoking convergent evolution in teeth. Could well be convergence, or maybe not, lets look at the known fossils of gigantopithecines and compare them to early examples of what is now thought to be in the genus Homo, and late surviving archaic members of Homo which might retain shared primitive dental morphological traits with gigantopithecines.
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Is this a convict mark? Kiribilli Sydney. It points down at the ground!

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Maybe - might be a trig marker - did you do a compass reading - it likely points North

I could be a few things, depending on surroundings and alignment with compass directions.

Dig Here =)

Treasure

A.S.

It's a sign...

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Matt Cole

I heard that there is a polygonal stone wall near Gympie.
I also heard that there is an ancient star fort under the Sydney Harbour Bridge's southern staunchen.
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There are at least 2 polygonal walls in Gympie. One is supposed to have been constructed from stones taken by ex servicemen from the Pyramid site and used to build the retaining wall around the church in the centre of Gympie. There is another inside the primary school grounds.

The Advanced Pre Ice Age Civilizations that Vanis…: youtu.be/-VUmtCLePL8

I live very close to gympie and have always wondered about the real gympie pyramid site. I do a lot of walking through the forestries here and have come across a few mines but nothing I would consider ancient (yet).

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Richard Barron
A stone that looks like it has a profile image of Aboriginal on It? Have a great day everyone!

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A stone that bears the image of an aborigine - the people really are embedded in their land. Indigenous people call rocks the 'grandfathers and grandmothers, and they hold the wisdom of time - none more so than in this stone.

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Wade Smits

Hi,
Next week I am travelling down from Brisbane to Melbourne. I plan on stopping at the Gosford Glyphs and some other sites if I can find some information on them.
Looking for recommendations, info or tips on some sites to visit along the way. Plan on spending some time in the Blue Mountains area then driving down the Hume to Melbourne.
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If going onto country please be respectful

^ what he said

Check out Newnes near Lithgow in the blue mountains, old ruins and aboriginal "hand" paintings in the area www.visitnsw.com/destinations/blue-mountains/lithgow-area/lithgow/attractions/newnes-shale-oil-ruins

and old railway tunnels with glow worms!

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The Gympie pyramid still exists, it has not been totally bulldozed away and if we are to call Gosford a site near Queensland we should also say that it is a short walk from Paris to Moscow. This channel is not good at fact checking, I have already filed a complaint against them for the disinfo video on the Ecuador site I researched, in which they feature my name and image.

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Yung Balug/Dja Dja Wurrung man Jackie Logan in possum skin cloak, Swan Hill, Victoria, circa. 1915.

Photo credit: L. L. Pitts.

Additional notes provided by Ngarra Murray as follows:

"Walpanumin John Logan (born Charlton 1840) was a Dja Dja Wurrung man, father of Herbert Nicholls and Grandfather to Pastor Sir Doug Nicholls. Walpanumin was the son of Lerimburneen or King Billy (c.1830-1865) who died on the Loddon River near Serpentine of the Dja Dja Wurrung/Baraparapa. Lerimburneen was the son of King Girribong (c.1790-1860) of the Dja Dja Wurrung/Baraparapa and Matty of the Wergaia (c1800-1886). The Nicholls Family regards the Boort, Charlton and Donald districts as the heartland of their Dja Dja Wurrung connection to Country."

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Gosh by 1915 look how much this land seems denuded.

Richie Martin

Rob Muscat dude's ballin' 😎

That's happiness!!!!

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The recent media coverage of evidence that Neanderthals mated with early Homo sapiens has failed to tell the full story - interbreeding in Europe over 200,000 years ago has no basis in reality. Please watch my new video so as to understand why this is in fact a huge revelation being swept under the carpet.

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The recent media coverage of evidence that Neanderthals mated with early Homo sapiens has deliberately failed to tell the full story so that Out of Africa Theory is not questioned - interbreeding over 200,000 years ago in Europe has no basis in reality. Please watch my new video so as to understand why this is in fact a huge revelation deliberately being swept under the carpet.
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2 weeks ago

Andrew Feasey
Thought this might be interesting for some members?...
Sani rock art. 
Drakensberg (means dragon mountains in Afrikaans.), South Africa.

Thought this might be interesting for some members?...

Sani rock art.
Drakensberg (means "dragon mountains" in Afrikaans.), South Africa.
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The Hybrid Reptilian Housewife, find her on You Tube, she reveals much.

Nice ancient art that, Andrew. 😀

San. One of the few rock art traditions that are well researched and understood. I hope I had contributed to that, too.

Rock art gives me the feeling it is much misunderstood, it is much more than local graffiti, more than simple scenes. This is a prime example - so many questions...

Looks like typical hunting magic to me. Not so much different than historical Australians, South Americans, and Native peoples of the SW of North America. Part of a rock art culture with common origins in Australia and SE Asia / SW China.

Alan, it looks 'typical' only because we have become used to seeing what we see as a genre of art that has been labelled 'hunting magic' and so for the majority of people, that means they can stop really looking at it with a questioning mind, and accept that that is all there is to it. I feel we could question it further and perhaps reveal more.

There may well be more to it. However, people then needed to eat just as we do today. And big game hunters often had a lot of dependence upon their favored prey being around. I do not see any reason to conclude it was so much different than similar art for peoples who we know today, or historically, so know something about what was going on with such art. Looks like a Shaman and three hunters to me. The Shaman taking the spirit of the animal into himself to invoke its presence. Some people today in North America chant "bring back the buffalo" at meetings, not sure they are so much different than the San were 70,000 years ago when they came from some place unknown in the scientific literature.

Thanks Alan, I agree, you have described it more fully and well. We can ask more questions now, about that shamanic practice and its origins, about its widespread use and the degree of intelligence, or 'psychic' ability incorporated in it, about shared knowledge of it for it to be pretty much global, and then the need to portray it in cave art, the ability to portray it and what happened to those people, etc, etc Yes? 🙂

I imagine meeting such people...

First compare the awesome display of the Siberian shaman with the communal ritual of Bushmen. The former is induced trance, whereas the latter is naturally achieved trance.

Fascinating observation, George

Siberian Shaman same as San Shaman induce trances both naturally and with drugs, same as in all of the Americas. All of them historically had great knowledge of pharmacology. The greatest knowledge ever was in Mexico to South America, though most of this is now lost.

I have trouble finding styles I can link to the rest of the World in SE Asia. They have ancient rock art in SE Asia, but I do not think it is old enough to show shared style. In SW China the oldest rock art is already very "Chinese" but also shows links to the Americas Australia and the San. Each region has their own style, but also shows links to other areas. The rock art culture does not appear to have been very strong in North America except the SW, in Europe except maybe in the South, or in many parts of Africa North of the Sahara or many parts of Asia. I consider the rock art culture is the oldest living human culture, with the possible exception of the pygmies, but is not the oldest culture of anatomically modern humans. The fertility / cannibal / animal husbandry cultures I consider are younger than the rock art culture, and are the "true" out of Africa event geneticists are seeing (and very much an into Africa from Africa event also, but much of Africa Asia and Europe was missed by this event, and it never got so far as Sahal (Australia New Guinea).

Michael Witzel (2011) wrote an excellent article in which he differentiates between 'Laurasia' and 'Gondwana' shamanic tradition. Thomas Dowson (1994) addresses Bushman shamanic traditions. In my book I elaborate their ideas. The phenomenon is very complex. But, in immediate-return societies trance is shared kike knowledge and meat, whereas in other social contexts the shaman monopolizes on the ability and builds on it power and prestige. Did you know that in the '70s approximately half of the !Kung men and one third of the women could enter trance at will and act as shamans? Who needs a 'ritual specialist' when such an abiliry exists?

Entering into a trance can depend also on genetics, environment and culture. It can be an indication of cold or seasonal food shortage adaptation also, to use less calories. The San have a very low calorie diet, and I speculate they came from Australia around 70,000 years ago as "Antarctic eskimos" when the pack ice was unbroken from the South of Australia to Africa. And people in this time were using boats to harvest marine mammals living on the sea ice. Some Native North Americans of the far North and desert areas can become nearly cataronic for long periods. Once I spent five days in a cave eating and drinking little, feeling almost nothing, like estivation. This has been incorrectly diagnosed as a type of schizophrenia at times, a type which is rare, but wide spread and concentrated in populations that live(d) in areas where food was not always abundant or easy to come by. When food is scarce, sometimes it can take more calories to get food than you get from it. Such as chasing flying grass hoppers.

They are having better food than we do. Used to. No connection. Trance is a natural cognitive dimension, no juju.

Thanks for your comments, Alan and George. you have proved my point!

Native peoples from the Americas are very diverse, including in practices of Shamans and religion. Medicine men and women today in the Americas in most cases have had considerable influences from Europe Africa and Asia after 1500 AD. There are very few generalizations that will be accurate. Medicine people even in the same tribe are in many tribes known to range from self centered to almost purely altruistic. Ones that come into contact with persons who are not tribal members are likely to be Westernized con men who have picked up some of the "trade" more than representative of pre Columbian traditions. I have known medicine men who were genuinely spiritual, but were about money and power, including skinning tourists and acting as informants for feds on drug violations against their own tribe. I have known others who had no interest in money or social power of any type, and did not keep or maintain any "secrets" or monopolies. Anyone trying to make any sorts of general principles about Natives of the Americas is on risky ground, as is well known in the professional literature for more than 50 years.

Immediate return versus delayed return is a novel idea, but of course often does not apply to hunter gatherer societies in the Americas, or even industrialized societies in the Americas. Not that it is not useful, just it is not as accurate as presented for the Americas. All native peoples in the United States were subjected to military conquest at some point in time, except a few bands who fled South across the border (those who fled North were not always conquered, but their chiefs generally were required to pledge loyalty to the queen or king of England). There are many memories going back before conquest in living peoples. Immediate return does not apply in a general sense to some hunter gatherers of North America. Often hunter gatherers have complex relationships with agricultural peoples or the bands / tribes can have persons who farm and others who do not. A common characteristic of hunter gatherer societies of North America before 1500 AD was to make very long trips on foot (more than 400 miles often), to trade, study, or visit friends and relatives. Such trips typically took from 4 months to 5 years. Hunter gatherers of the Huichol still sometimes undertake such trips, and in the 1990's contact with Native peoples living in remote Central California was reestablished after 400 years (as reported by Quise who made a trip of over 500 miles on foot from Mexico to the area, traveling light). This is delayed reward in hunter gatherer peoples. Long trade trips were also delayed reward (such as along the shell trade trails some of which are still evident, stretching from the Sea of Cortez to Canada). With mobile hunter gatherers, there were many systems of money creation to concentrate wealth so it could more easily be carted, such as elaborate labor intensive bead work. In Native American areas I have been in, in North and Central America, which have never been conquered martially (most have been converted at least nominally to Christianity), are "industrialized" peoples who practice agriculture, and present much immediate-return type behavior. The differences between the two paradigms often will have more to do with whether people have any monetary or food savings, than what type of culture they represent. I do not agree there is any sort of trance state seen in any rock art culture or their descendants, which is not also seen widely some place in the Americas before 1500 AD and up until today. The differences as described may hold up some in the literature, but not in practice in the field. And this commonality is supported by the fact that South America was settled from Australia at 28,000 plus years ago. With cultural (and undetected genetic) exchange into Central America and SW North America. These are Shamanic traditions with common origins which are not divided universally by any general principles. Whether ethnobotanical artistic or in core animistic belief systems. Yes there has been diversification, and influences from all Continents except perhaps Antarctica back into ancient times, but they remain unified traditions without any universal definable deviations from the original cultures.

Thanks Alan. Only six immediate-return hunter gatherer societies are acknowledged in the anthropological literature. Some (not all) Bushman, Pygmy and Negrito groups. Their ancestors were delayed-return. I menrion this so that the widespread idea that they represent cultural fossils is dispelled. IR economies and pedomorphic phenotypes are a recent achievement. Both appear in the Holocene, at a stage that twas technologically identical to the European Mesolithic. Eurasian robusts took a cultural leap that lead to technological accumulation and the Neolithic Revilurion. The rapid adaptation to the cultural niche resulted in the loss of certain cognitive abiliries, they became stuck in the causal construcr of their reality. On the other hand, still robust IR HGs underwent a neotenal leap that led to present phwnotypic characteristics, and also reduced hierarchy, aggressiveness, etc. Instead of stressing on technology, culrural development took other directions. And so on....

So when was the Bushman (San) leap to an immediate return economy? They got animal husbandry from Black Africans, with a genetic signatures of this event(s) identified. They were not originally agricultural. Many San today have low calorie diets ( impressions are sometimes presented otherwise, in some areas San or San related people have medium calorie diets, not so much in what is now South Africa now or historically).

Dear Alan, I tgought we were past this biased and unsupported low-diet thing. Sorry, I must concentrate on my work now. We can go on - instead of getting bogged down in presumptions - when you collect more up-to-date evidence.

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During March 19 to 21, 2015 Dr. Todd Ovokaitys held The Creation Choir in Uluru, Australia and the fifth matched node/null pair was identified, opened and activated. Uluru is home to the Aṉangu, where they have lived in harmony and as guardians to the sacred Uluru rock for over 40,000 years. Kryon spoke of the Aṉangu lineage and of the purity that the Aṉangu carry within their DNA. Their DNA was described as being one step removed from the Pleiadians making them seers of the Earth in a way that is difficult to describe. The Twelve Nodes on the planet represent all the places where the Pleiadians came to seed humanity with divinity. This was on purpose, with sacred design, so that the benevolence of God was imbued all at once, all over the planet, not with a chosen few. The Aṉangu have remained pure due to their remote location and isolation on the planet. The other Eleven Nodes had populations whose bloodlines were diluted and dispersed through free choice. We are now receiving new tools and spiritual information from the activated pairs.

Another startling piece of information that Kryon revealed was that not all of the matched pairs of nodes and nulls ARE PREDETERMINED! The only two predetermined pairs were Maui, Hawaii with Tibesti Mountains, Chad (Africa) and The Island of the Sun, Lake Titicaca, Bolivia (Peru) with Mt Kailash, Tibet. The pairs are matched in response to Human Consciousness. The matching null for Uluru was one of three potentials. All three were appropriate. A polarized pair is determined by the matching energy of the node and null based upon Human Consciousness at a certain point in time at the moment of the matching. After the final tones of The Creation Choir were sung, Kryon announced that the matching null for Uluru was Mount Logan, Yukon Northern Territories, Canada. The result is that we now have five matched pairs of nodes and nulls (time capsules) which are enhancing the delivery of new tools towards spiritual evolution. Watch for a “new normal” on the planet. Expect love, compassion and integrity to matter more now than ever before! Monika Muranyi.
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8 x 0 = 0: Archaeology that Adds up to Nothing
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This article evolved out of a question which I first stumbled upon about six months ago that has no sensible answer. When discussing with my wife the intention to begin this comparison of opportunities denied with this mystery unanswered, she went to the machine I despise and asked the same question. The computer’s response only confirmed what I thought, no-one had a logical explanation, no substantial scientific research has been done and due consideration has never been given...........In my genetic case, and that of many Original people who have around one twentieth of their genetic code sourced from ancient Denisovan genes, to be called solely sapien falls short. Then in what adds to the discrepancy, throw into the Original mix a dash of Neanderthal and a liberal dose of an unknown mystery gene and what this adds up to it is not ‘pure-bred’ sapien, but something more like a genetic ‘dog’s breakfast.’... Read More here: http://forgottenorigin.com/8-x-0-0-archaeology-that-adds-up-to-nothing

8 x 0 = 0: Archaeology that Adds up to Nothing
By Steven & Evan William Strong
"This article evolved out of a question which I first stumbled upon about six months ago that has no sensible answer. When discussing with my wife the intention to begin this comparison of opportunities denied with this mystery unanswered, she went to the machine I despise and asked the same question. The computer’s response only confirmed what I thought, no-one had a logical explanation, no substantial scientific research has been done and due consideration has never been given...........In my genetic case, and that of many Original people who have around one twentieth of their genetic code sourced from ancient Denisovan genes, to be called solely sapien falls short. Then in what adds to the discrepancy, throw into the Original mix a dash of Neanderthal and a liberal dose of an unknown mystery gene and what this adds up to it is not ‘pure-bred’ sapien, but something more like a genetic ‘dog’s breakfast.’..." Read More here: forgottenorigin.com/8-x-0-0-archaeology-that-adds-up-to-nothing
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add to the equation that aparently dna can be reduced due to radio wave illness, and has possibly been also added too by aliens(past and present), and possibly black op interference aswell.. woah!

Perhaps a under the sea ancestry 🙂 or now under ice.

Great article guys, this needs to be shared everywhere. Steve, they may have hidden the engraving that we saw at the Adelaide musuem but thanks to mark here is the video again...........https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLOzU0VDChU

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Any human genes which were in Africa more than 60,000 years ago are classified as "African original" because of the false belief that there were no humans (ormembers of the genus Homo) outside of Africa 74,000 years ago. This belief has already required three revisions in the face of genetic proof to the contrary, of genes from humans that were never in Africa. It does not matter what the origin of these genes was geographically, if they made it into Africa and into humans more than 60,000 years ago, they are classified automatically as anatomically modern human genes. The fossil and archaeological record is twisted or ignored to fit the model. For a few years the ridiculous notion that no humans or members of the genus Homo survived outside of Africa 74,000 years ago was the mainstream view of professionals of all types. Homo floresiensis was the first major blow to this (ironically I have for years doubted H. floresiensis did not go extinct 74,000 years ago). This all was silly to begin with. Even completely ignoring or misunderstanding the human fossil record, the fact that Orangs obviously survived in Asia 74,000 years ago demonstrates members of the genus Homo did also. And Orangs have no fossil record at all for about 6 million years ago, so reasoned persons might conclude humans might not have a fossil record at some point for around 1-5 million years as well. It is well understood archaic humans were often arboreal and had similar habits and filled similar niches to orangs. And orangs are like us tool users, including stone tools.

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Star Knowledge conferences are like that, too;-)

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Intuitive Sound and Tankar set the mood for connecting 4 archaeological sites, 3 of which surround Quenqo Archaeological site. What many do not understand is there are many sites next to the well known ones that receive little attention or notice. We have hiked most of the 34 sq km archaeological park of Sacsaywaman.
All pictures are provided by Annie and Bob Newton.
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There is a camp out there that is making claims of Internal Vitrification at these sites, This is not Vitrification, The shine and smoothness comes from friction from rubbing against or placing hands, clothing etc...... upon these spots.
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A Tale of Two Travesties: The Standing Stones are Gone
By Steven & Evan William Strong
"When it comes to what is an almost criminal negligence inflicted upon two pieces of Australian archaeology, consigned to be ignored, withheld or destroyed, the injustice is far greater than any tragic theme selected by Dickens from supposedly less enlightened times. No-one in high places cares whether the Standing Stones Complex is reassembled nor do they intend to inspect or consider the credentials of hundreds of sacred marked and magical Original rocks that is now part of our collection. Despite our protests, countless approaches and many articles faithful to the highest standards in rigour and science detailing our evidence, not a curious word has been passed by any employed academic nor has official correspondence been sent requesting more information.................It was only three days before we met this academic expert on geology that we first saw the damage and theft through photographs sent via Email. We now had nothing for him to view from either across the paddock or perhaps beside, the rocks were hidden and until we can find out what happened, they were lost again. When we did suggest to meet at a Mullumbimby outdoor café and talk more, no mention was made of the marked rocks, we felt it better that these substitutes should appear unannounced and be free from any bias or expectations..." Read More at:- forgottenorigin.com/a-tale-of-two-travesties-the-standing-stones-are-gone
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This just breaks my heart and enrages my blood!! 😡😤 Thank you EvEvan William Strongnd Steve for all you hard work, effort and love to not only bring this sacred information to people like me but to ensure this knowledge is something we all pass onto friends, family and the especially public forums! 🙏🏽❤️ #shared

As usual an excellent report, this time highlighting the endemic kidnapping of historical truth for personal gain by establishment reptiles.. Those awakened with eyes to see, minds to comprehend, and opened heart can only continue for now to publicize, publicize and publicize... Awareness will eventually pay off.

destroying anything that disproves their 'we are one' BS and out of Africa 'theory'

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Thank you for accepting me. At the moment, I can only contribute with attracting your attention to my new book
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I think it belongs here because of my criticism of the Out of Africa hypothesis. Please check comments below: attached, a link to About | Contents | References.

Thank you for accepting me. At the moment, I can only contribute with attracting your attention to my new book

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I think it belongs here because of my criticism of the Out of Africa hypothesis. Please check comments below: attached, a link to About | Contents | References.New Book Reviews

“Having read George Steiner’s monograph I can confirm that I find it a most impressive achievement. This volume is on the very cutting edge of research in the field it addresses. Its author is certainly one of the most innovative writers on the subject of cognitive human evolution. Here he proposes a volume dedicated to the role of neoteny in hominin evolution, particularly its cultural dimensions. What is from my perspective the most impressive aspect of the work is the exploration of the role exograms played in this. Exograms, ‘memory traces’ stored outside the brain, are the most significant factor in cognitive evolution, and yet they are arguably the most neglected. So far, only two authors have ever considered them in any detail since the late 1980s, despite their fundamental importance in the question of what makes us human, and how we managed to experience the world in a conscious format. Steiner corrects this imbalance, and for that reason alone his book holds great promise. His encyclopaedic knowledge of the generic subject and his most innovative patterns of reasoning have produced a truly worthwhile addition to the rather limited literature on the topic. An aspect I find particularly important is that Steiner did not approach this discipline from the evolutionary perspective initially, but from the direction of a desire to understand the products of human cognition, through his work with paleoart, specifically rock art. Therefore he is not stuck in a particular epistemological groove, but has cultivated the ability to see the issues in an inter-disciplinary perspective.” - Professor Robert G. Bednarik, Convener and Editor-in-Chief, IFRAO; Australian Rock Art Research Association (AURA), Australia

"I have read the manuscript of the proposed book by George Steiner entitled Neanderthals in Plato’s Cave: A Relativistic Approach to Cultural Evolution, and found it to be an extremely thought provoking piece of work. It is well written, clearly organized and well referenced. The author shows a good grasp of the relevant literature on cultural evolution and prehistory and offers a range of interesting and original ideas on the origin of culture in early humans." - Dr. Liora Kolska Horwitz, Head of Research, Negev Rock Art Center and The National Natural History Collections, The Hebrew University of Jerusalem, Safra Campus, Jerusalem, Israel

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That would be cheap. I float the hypothesis that due to cultural/cognitive specialization, Eurasian Neanderthals gradually domesticated themselves. This led to morphological changes that recall neoteny, but are rather the immediate result of domestication. Goats, dogs, etc. display the same type of maladaptive neoteny. On the other hand, certain hunters-gatherers underwent a genuine neotenal process. However, neoteny has psycho-social implications. The said HGs developed egalitarian societies, whereas Eurasian robusts retained hierarchical structures. Sociability is a natural extension of the former, opposed to docility, which is culturally sanctified sociability - with the latter.

Out of Australia is an exciting hypothesis. There were population movements along the Indian Ocean shore, in Oman and South India there are still markedly 'Australoid' phenotypes around. Some Africans also spread slowly on the same route. But, the Pleiades? Isn't that a bit far-fetched? If there are 'aliens' among us, they must be identified with cultures that despise the earth and hang their hopes on a heavenly Paradise. Aborigine culture does not fit these parameters. Quite the opposite.

Tony William Muir your comments here are wildly inappropriate - I do not think Evan wants this kind of thing happening here.

Hi George, The hypothesis that Homo sapiens evolved in Australasia prior to migrating across the planet is very well supported by scientific data. I am happy to discuss this if it is of interest, you can also read my short e-book if you have time and interest. I do not make buying my book a prerequisite to a discussion (I have seen so many authors do that!). Is the Pleiadian involvement in human evolution far fetched? I suppose it is rather far fetched, in both meanings of that term: "brought from a remote time or place" "not easily or naturally deduced or introduced" The oral history concerning Pleidian visits to Earth is both ancient, and not at all limited to Australia. I suggest that you explore the books of Leonard Farra as he has gathered the most complete record of the Pleiades in global myths, legends, and history. I wonder why you would suggest of Pleiades creation stories "they must be identified with cultures that despise the earth and hang their hopes on a heavenly Paradise" as I do not follow as to why that would be the case. Suffice to say that I know of no culture that claims a link to the Pleiades but also hates the Earth. There are few ancient cultures that do not place the Pleiades in some special cetral role in their mythology. I strongly reccomend Leonard's book series for you, I think you will find great insight there and it may well change your thinking to some degree. www.blurb.com/user/Lenfarra

George, is it correct that your book will be released as a 143 page (plus end matter) hardback costing $200? If so, I assume this is a university textbook rather than something for the general public? Sadly, either way, this is beyond my budget, but I will gladly read any articles, blogs or papers you release to the public and discuss them here.

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George F. Steiner

And, finally, a link to
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which is an alternate version of my chapter in 'Understanding Human Behavior'. It only approximates the said chapter, therefore it is free of the copyright restrictions that apply to my contribution to the volume. My portraying of Aborigine cultural peculiarities is kind of rudimentary, but this will soon be corrected. I was commissioned to edit a book (starting with it in December) in which my chapter (Dreamspace and Dreamtime) will expand the ideas introduced here. I am looking forward to learning new things in this group.
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Thank you for providing this, I have started to skim through and already found several points of interest.

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George F. Steiner

Please check on 'Understanding Human Behavior.' In my chapter I touch on Aborigine cultural phenomena. I contrast the cultural 'Weltschau' of the ancient Australians (guardians of Nature) with immediate-return hunter-gatherer (San, Mbuti, Negrito) perceptions of themselves (parts of Nature) and to Eurasian concepts of Mesolithic origins (masters of Nature).

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In case my posts made you interested, don't hesitate joining NEANDERTHALS IN PLATO'S CAVE and share your thoughts. I am eager to learn as much as possible about the Australian Origins hypothesis. I think that my own views can accommodate it. However, before you join, please collect all the info at www.neanderthalsinplatoscave.com
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How deadly is this?

It is a very early photo from the 1860s, possibly the oldest in existence, of an original Western Australian.

Identified as "Daakin", he is from around the Perth area, is dressed in kangaroo skins and wears a nose ornament.

Photo credit: Alfred Hawes Stone.
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Alan VanArsdale

On where the anatomically modern human mind comes from (the brain). By Asiatic I am referring to all places other than Sub Saharan Africa, which the fossil evidence indicates was the most genetically isolated place in this period. Australia I just do not know what role was had in this, as there is no fossil record and features seen in Australia could be original to Australia or could have migrated in from Asia (including those not known to exist any place else). I do not see any evidence that Australia was ever colonized directly from Africa.

For myself, one of the best fossil records we have of the cranium of the first Homo sapiens, is living pygmies. They have such wonderful high domed modern heads and Asiatic temperaments, even if they are generally mostly genetically derived from the people now living around them. Humans are so morphologically diverse since Homo erectus, even before, that it is hard to develop much understanding from just one or a few skulls from just one of a few populations.

In the Americas I do not see any morphological indications of the Americas having a role this far back, nor do I support any notions that extant Native Americans are not closely related to all peoples who preceeded them geographically. How we look, in the minds of all of humanity except a few geneticists at least, tells more about relationships than genes which we may not even be using in any way. Australia has been somewhat genetically isolated, though lately not so much as Sub Saharan Africa. It is to be expected diverse humans in Australia now would be similar genetically, though not morphologically, as is the case. f we accept, which now appears to be the case, that there is no fossil record for forms ancestral to, or closely related to ancestors, of Homo floresiensis.

I am proposing Red Deer Cave Man is a relative of Homo floresiensis whose very modern (high domed cranium) / very archaic (limb structure), "mixed" morphology indicates partial ancestry to Homo sapiens and relationship with Homo floresiensis (not some sort of provincial misfit or hybrid). H. floresiensis to me has the foundational structure for the high domed cranium of Homo sapiens, at the same time showing relationship with Lufengpithecus not seen in any African taxa. However I do consider chimps to be the closest living relatives of Homo, with African taxa more chimp like from a close LCA and horizontal gene flow. To reconcile there considerations, I am invoking hybrids between Asiatic and African taxa at at least two points to explain the fossil record (along with the gene flow from chimps already proposed by geneticists). Geneticists would not be expected to see any of these as I have them all before the LCA of all genomes known in our family tree with the exception of living apes whose LCA's with Homo are before these hybrids so also give no evidence of them for geneticists.

Thus we get our limb and hip morphology from Homo erectus (and not ape size brain Homo H. naledi or H. floresiensis), and our facial and upper cranial structure from Asiatic taxa at the base of Homo sapiens and at some unseen event mixing Asiatic and African forms leading to Homo erectus at some unknown location. The current thinking is that we are derived only from African taxa (the one known cranium of a juvenile H. erectus show brain development in a different order than in living humans, so the brain would fit the flat elongated head), and that our high domed heads are derived quite recently to allow our frontal cortex room to expand rapidly in recent history. The fossil record however no longer supports this notion at all, and even before recent finds the greater similarity of the upper cranium of living humans and Asiatic apes had to be explained by remarkable convergent evolution. In mammals in general, as in primates, the brain and skull do not make such rapid leaps, if it has done so in humans this would be the one exception. So it appears to me our minds (brains) are Asiatic, and developed over millions of years, not less than a million years as proposed from flat headed African ape men who also developed brains as large as ours, but on a different pathway.
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Stefan Aeberhard
So I go hiking in North Queensland a lot and last year I found this cave with strange Pyramid rock at the entrance and a hole going all the way through a 100 mm slab of rock inside the cave. Then today I found a 180mm deep hole in a flat rock on the very top of a small peak at the side of a mountain. 
I know nature can produce all that, but in my 25 year bush-walking experience they are very rare, let alone in a cave or right on top of a little peak. I have some questions: Would Aboriginal people making that, inside a cave? Pyramid at the entrance !?? Coincidence, just a rock to mega-fauna out? 
So many questions! 
Comments anyone?

So I go hiking in North Queensland a lot and last year I found this cave with strange Pyramid rock at the entrance and a hole going all the way through a 100 mm slab of rock inside the cave. Then today I found a 180mm deep hole in a flat rock on the very top of a small peak at the side of a mountain.

I know nature can produce all that, but in my 25 year bush-walking experience they are very rare, let alone in a cave or right on top of a little peak. I have some questions: Would Aboriginal people making that, inside a cave? Pyramid at the entrance !?? Coincidence, just a rock to mega-fauna out?

So many questions!
Comments anyone?
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Where was this?

This what I found necks a very old wall

Bambara/Kariong

Great finds

Have u posted the singing rocks too?

Water storage/direction? I've seen a few similar things on overhanging rocks (lookouts) through out SA.

At Kariong there are two similar holes not far from the glyphs.

Really interesting post. Thanks for sharing your insights. 💚

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