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Daine Runnalls

All and good, but where will this be?

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www.facebook.com/sacsatellite/posts/401430486923428Antarctica,
This frozen barren landscape has some very interesting images!.
Fore more interesting screen shots of our planet,
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King Billie of the Macquarie area, NSW, early 1900s.

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4 days ago

Andrew Feasey
Lake Mungo, NSW, Australia. 
The World Heritage Protected Mungo National Park is the traditional meeting place of the Muthi Muthi, Nyiampaar and Barkinji Mobs.
The cremated remains of the Mungo Man and Lady, 
were discovered there in the 70s, dated between 50-70,000 yrs old.

Lake Mungo, NSW, Australia.
The World Heritage Protected Mungo National Park is the traditional meeting place of the Muthi Muthi, Nyiampaar and Barkinji Mobs.
The cremated remains of the Mungo Man and Lady,
were discovered there in the 70's, dated between 50-70,000 yrs old.
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Brother Rob, sorry the delay, maybe you could share that story about your experience with that scientist back in the 80's who was researching the Mungo Man?... 🙂

To me there appear to be common origins for this cremation and some practices in South America. Of course we already know the largest and oldest known genetic / skeletal morphology impulse for modern humans in South America was out of Australia. I am thinking there is a large cultural element in North America that came originally from Australia, though not a lot of genes came with the culture flow. The environmentally pushed reductions in human populations of around 10,000 to 14,000 years ago led to the gene pools being mostly replenished from Asia. However, much culture crossed the line, though there was a major technological regression in that period. Genetic studies on North Americans more than 14,000 years ago would show they had major genetic sources in Australia and Europe. Osteological systematics supports this already. The phenotypical traits of all Native Americans are too similar to justify North Americans as being almost purely Asiatic now that we know South Americans are mostly Australian in origin. The phenotypic traits are persistent in North America over the period 10K to 14K years ago, which explains why all Native Americans showed related (but very diverse) physical features 500 years ago North to South. Another example of how genetic studies often do not make much reflection of phenotype, while as humans, we measure ourselves more by phenotype than genotype as to our identities. Thus Native Americans are themselves, not Asians or Australians as genetic studies suggest, all of us are not "Africans" etc... We are all closely related, but we are "of" where we are from, not "of" some matrilinear lineage ancestor some place else. Phenotypes are persistent over time in any given part of the World, even if genetic contributions are small (such as around 4%). The genetic distance between all humans is very small, while the distance in phenotype is large compared to other mammals and primates. Thus we are not looking so much like "Mother Africa" as we look like even other species of Homo where we are from. These processes can only be shown to have occurred by genetic studies as far back as genetic studies can go, which is not long for Homo. As we are primates, it is reasonable to assume these processes go back as long as humans have been in any place, that all members of the genus Homo that ever lived in our home places, are our direct ancestors and major contributors to how we look and are perceived by other humans and ourselves.

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3 days ago

Kylie O'Hanlon

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6 days ago

Andrew Feasey
Wattarka National Park(KIngs Canyon), Central Australia.
The Luritja Mob have lived there for over 20,000 years, 
and are the custodians of the park and its sacred places. 
The name Wattarka is for a local acacia tree.
Plants there have survived over 50 million yrs, it was once a lush rainforest.

Wattarka National Park(KIngs Canyon), Central Australia.
The Luritja Mob have lived there for over 20,000 years,
and are the custodians of the park and it's sacred places.
The name Wattarka is for a local acacia tree.
Plants there have survived over 50 million yrs, it was once a lush rainforest.
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Out of respect for the traditional owners I have not included any images of the carvings or the art from this site.

Awesome pictures, very beautiful country, will have to look up some of their dreamtime ❤ Andrew Feasey what type of camera do u use as I'm looking into a new camera and yours takes clear pics? Ta 😁

Beautiful Geology formations. Love scared places!.. 🙂

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Ngarrindjeri man Poltpalingada Booboorowie also known as "King Tommy Walker", who became a famous identity in late 19th century South Australia. This photo was taken circa. 1880.

"Unlike many of his countrymen who gravitated to Point McLeay Mission (Raukkan) after its establishment in 1859, he was more often a visitor than a resident, spending most of his life travelling among a network of fringe camps that emerged as European settlement displaced Aboriginal people from their country. He was one who, by choice or circumstance, spurned the restrictions of mission life for a precarious freedom that often brought trouble with the law... A renowned mimic, he spoke good English and scorned being addressed in pidgin" - Australian Dictionary of Biography.
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This is my ancestor... I can give you more information on him if you like.. His autopsy was performed at Adelaide uni.. The butchers cut him into pieces and sent his body parts around the world for "study" . We held a ceremony for him in Gawler at one of his old camping spots across from Hindmarsh Island laying to rest only a handful of bones we had received back from overseas. I've got a fair bit of interesting info on him actually.

Lost Tamil community

Valarie Tamil weapon

Ngarrindjeri - a Raminjerri word meaning "Black man"....

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4 days ago

Jeffrey Boyd Jr.

List ye O man,

Archeo to astro, Australia to Europa! First show we did took us straight into the rabbit hole.
Started on Ground Zero with Clyde Lewis. Releasing info in archeo to astro!

Jeffrey
Check out last night's show. If you missed it...You missed a swan dive into the rabbit hole...But it's reality. The show is playing on the page now. LETS SEE HOW DEEP THIS RABBIT HOLE GOES!! Jeffrey Boyd Jr. with Host and society brother Joseph Rupe Jo-Rupe on LightingtheVoid.com 9PM Central don't miss it!
We had quite a wild conversation after last show. Part 2 will definitely be interesting!
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Australia needs to unite in this cause...

Stop Adani Destroying Our Land and Culture

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STOP THE MINING. SAVE OUR LAND AND CULTURE.

Traditional Owners of the land speak on why we need to take action against the mining company Adani.
We're working together with GREEN PEACE to put together a night of incredible music from Haitch Music & Gambirra Music, gathering of like minded people and education on the Queensland’s Galilee Basin.

Donation upon entry, all proceeds go towards protecting our reefs.
May 19th, Bondi - More info in comments.
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www.facebook.com/sacsatellite/posts/396610127405464Australia, Marble bar.
The wallaby, Roo, Kangaroo. In Australia you find this amazing creature and geoglyphs in the shapes of the Roo!.
There is Pareidolia And more strange everywhere in this mysterious magical Land.
Here are some images that I have found so far. enjoy!
For more interesting places on our planet visit our page. And please SHARE THIS POST! To spread awareness about geoglyphs and how we can protect these sites before they are lost forever.
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6 days ago

Alan VanArsdale

Revisiting Homo floresiensis. Humans are scientifically a type of ape. So an Asiatic ape H. flroesiensis was found. Why no systematic comparisons to Asiatic apes other than members of the genus Homo? Yes we can see the habilines are the closest known relatives (I agree with that). But why the failure to make systematic comparisons with fossil and Asiatic living apes? I believe such cladistic or other studies would indicate Homo floresiensis is an Asiatic ape, not an African immigrant as is suggested. That Homo floresiensis retains MANY conservative features also seen in Asiatic apes, and NOT seen in any known African taxa. If I am correct, what does this mean? That there is a major presence of Homo in Asia we are not seeing in the fossil record, going back very far, most likely farther back than Homo in Africa. ... See MoreSee Less

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I suspect that you are right.

Pongids (Orangs) are an obvious waste basket group as used now. Many years ago, Gigantopithecines were classified as close to Homo because of similarities in the teeth (when they were known only from teeth, there are a few bones now). Later, so far as I can tell only because Gigantopithcines were "too old" (going back some 9-11 million years), they were moved to Pongids. Conveniently, there is a gap in the Pongid fossil record of 6 million years (which suggests there could be a similar gap in the record for Homo in the same region). More Asiatic apes have been found and named since. They also have been placed with pongids, despite some are much more similar to Homo than Pongids over all. The similarities with Homo in the teeth is explained as convergent evolution, I explain it as retention of conservative character states. Now with bones being found, and a cranium, to me the similarities with Homo, especially Homo floresiensis, are just too much to whisk away by invoking convergence. Recently there have been suggestions in the literature that some Asiatic apes should be moved closer to Homo (as in before the divergence of Homo and living African apes). I am not aware anyone has suggested these Asiatic apes might be derived from Asiatic Homo, in the Homo floresiensis lineage, except myself (so my paper retains a few threads of originality). Even Pongids potentially could be derived from Homo in Asia, they would have undergone fairly rapid evolution from the Homo state if this is the case. I find it unlikely gibbons are derived from Homo, though I believe they share a common fully bipedal ancestor with Homo making full bipedalism a conservative, not a secondary, trait in gibbons and humans. To me, full bipedalism in Homo floresiensis shows similarities to full bipedalism in living gibbons which is not seen in any other known Homo or any African apes. Gibbons are not known in thew fossil record in Africa. Orangs are not known from Africa. None of the several Homo like lineages of apes in the fossil record in Asia are known in Africa (unless Gorillinae and Gigantopithecines should be joined together). What a complex invocation of migrations and convergence indeed to place the origins of so many Asiatic apes, including Homo floresiensis, in Africa! And with zero fossil record of these very complex migrations out of Africa, and convergences. Given the state of the fossil record now, it is much simpler to consider Homo floresiensis is just what it appears to be, an Asiatic ape, than to try to invoke very complex explanations to make them African apes. If I am correct in that Homo floresiensis shares a large number of conservative features with Asiatic apes which no African taxa show. I have some understanding of systematics in mammals, but I do not have the resources or time to undertake such a study. However, if no such study is undertaken within ten years, it will be a bizarre oversight especially as many paleoanthropologists are now aware of my paper (for a fact). Multiregional origin of Homo in Africa and Asia is a valid alternative explanation. Horizontal gene flow between Homo and Asiatic apes might be valid, but I think it would definately require to move some Asiatic apes from Pongids closer to Homo to support such a wild notion. In any case, the fossil record now requires a major revision of notions about the origin(s) of the genus Homo. And the last tench of denialism about what Homo floresiensis is and indicates need to be breached and put to rest. The last line of defense which is faith based like the other lost lines of defense of out of Africa for the origin of Homo, is that Homo floresiensis is of African origins. All other nonsense has already been put to rest within the paleoanthropological community, even if there are some die hards still trying to make themselves look stupid (and doing a good job at that). I am getting to be more and more the little boy pointing out that the king is naked, as more and more evidence comes in. I knew the king was naked as soon as I learned of the Homo floresiensis find, just it was only recently I understood more about the details of his nudity. For more than 30 years I have understood there was a problem with Gagantopithcines being lumped with Pongids.

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Ceremony men with beautiful head ornaments and decoration at Roebourne, WA, circa. 1910.

Photo credit: E. L. Mitchell
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This is great, those headdress are clearly related to later versions seen across the entire planet. Incredible stuff!

Thanks to Ididj Aust 👍🏻

Nice octagonal flanges

Incredible history and connections to our planet

They look like Astronauts !

Yes they mimicked the space travellers!

As far as I have read, people that claim to have seen ET beings on Earth never mention big bulky space suits. I suspect that any civilization so advanced that it can reach Earth would also have progressed beyond the bulky bubble-helmet space suits we have used in our own primitive space program.

Awesome

I thort they look like glowing oras

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Yandruwanta man Danbidelli - also known as Jim Mariner - was present at Cooper's Creek in South Australia when explorers Burke and Wills arrived there in 1861.

He helped the explorers who were dying of starvation but it wasn't enough.

In this photo from around 1920 Danbidelli is described as totally blind.
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notice whats around his neck

I find the dog very strange ????

What is around his neck ?

Chest Plate ,like a dog tag.

A dog tag thats discusting

Like a quarter moon symbol.

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its a sacred place, trust me I know.....

Sutherland Shire Environment Centre
We are proud to show you "Royal National Park - A place for belonging", which was officially launched last Tuesday. This video is a community-created film which tells the story of the significance and beauty of the Royal National Park and Royal Reserves, for people and planet.

It has been created as part of the campaign to have the Royal National Park and Royal Reserves World Heritage Listed.

Show your support for World Heritage Listing of RNP by SIGNING THE PETITION here: actionnetwork.org/petitions/royal-national-park-a-place-for-belonging

The film has been co-created by a group of volunteer filmmakers and photographers, who are passionate about about nature and sharing the story of the Royal National Park and Royal Reserves with the world and future generations.

The filmmakers worked together to craft the story and film the story over two weekends. Editing support has been provided by Digital Storytellers.

The Royal National Park, A place for belonging video project is supported through funding from the Australian Government’s Community Heritage and Icons Grants program.

Sign the petition now! actionnetwork.org/petitions/royal-national-park-a-place-for-belonging

#firstnationalpark #worldheritage #royalnationalpark
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Beautiful!

I know this is no physical proof of anything. I was looking at this here lovely video thinking how beautiful this spot is and how it seemed familiar to me. Was blown away and got chills when I read the name of the area. Reason for that is a couple years back I had a dream I was looking over the shoulder of an aboriginal man holding what looked like strips of bark woven together with something written on it. He was handing it to white men in red coat uniform and saying to them what sounded to me like oudley. He repeated it twice. Just thought I'd share. Maybe it means something to someone down that way.

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Wangan and Jagalingou Traditional Owners Council
Stand with us! We’re in the Federal Court, aiming to strike out Adani’s dodgy land use deal over our country. Because when we say ‘No’, we mean ‘No’.

It’s our responsibility to protect the Country of our ancestors. We will not surrender. Can you SHARE and donate to our Defence of Country Fund to help us win? wanganjagalingou.com.au/donate/
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1 week ago

Alan VanArsdale

Now that it appears obvious Homo erectus was a seafarer (except to the most biased or unread of people), it also appears notions of an artless Godless "fireless" people without human like manual dexterity are also fallacious. Homo floresiensis made it to Flores Island over the sea some way (or walked there about five million years ago when Flores was last connected to the mainland, probably connected or at least a much easier trip). There is no reason at all now to assume Homo erectus never made the trip to Australia, with collecting and preservation biases in place. Anyone see any relationship between these shell engravings and the art work / religion / navigational / astronomical science of Original Australians? ... See MoreSee Less

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the seafaring upright man...

What if they where transported here maybe even old mate from Russia too!

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1 week ago

Dermot Kelly

Can you believe this? They actually think we believe them. It is not what they are saying, but what they are not saying.........don't let the title suck you in, as we all know out of Africa is wrong. It is the tripe that they are sprouting to prove it. Scientists?
What scientists? All NON-Africans share Neanderthal DNA, africans don't have any. Modern man is a hybrid of seperate hominid species. "out of africa" did not happen and Black...
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Just a question in this group got any Aboriginal admins?

Steven Strong is Australian Original btw, and as his son by default I am too

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Its All About Australia: The Beginning of Everything Part 1

It's All About Australia: The Beginning of Everything Part 1Jun 18, 9:00amapp.webinarjam.net/register/40269/84550e172fWe are happy to introduce the first of our webinar seriers covering a wide range of topics related to our ancient past.

We hope you can join us for our first webinar on 18th June 9am (Aussie Eastern Standard Time)/17th June 7pm (New York Time).

This will be a collective gathering of Original and non-Original Elders and researchers examing different parts of an extremely ancient global history that begins in Australia. In the true sense of that collective approach each participant shares equally in any profits made.

Many Original Elders knowledgeable in the secret history and mystical pursuits have received nothing but grief and poverty. This is a chance for their wisdom to be acknowledged and paid accordingly.

The many truths and insights they will share openly paint a completely different history of the world as we knew it in the past, and how it will effect our immediate future.

Come and join us in discovering the whole truth and nothing but the Original truth in this special 6hr webinar.

Only aud $10 to watch six speakers present an updated version of our history.

Steven and Evan William Strong, Ildi Budai, Trevor Wie, Bruce Fenton, James Bartley, & Xchelita Michelle Recchia

CLICK HERE & REGISTER: app.webinarjam.net/register/40269/84550e172f
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Just as there were individuals given the title of King, there were also Queens in the historical record.

This is Queen Mary, wife of King Charles Tattambo of Molka Station, Goulburn Valley, Victoria, circa. 1870.
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She is beautiful

So beautiful and so sad her soul....

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How much do we know about the Giza tunnel network?
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● The water connection is more than meets the eye. Everywhere around the planet, at every ancient temple, megalithic or not, we find a close connection with the most precious substance for the carbon based life. If you consider the human body a temple, even here you can feel how deep this connection goes. Let’s say sixty percent of an adult body deep. So deep that anywhere you go around the world you are going to find a way to complete the sacred temple frame with a water source. Here, at Giza, we find something strange and somehow unique. The vast network of tunnels under the plateau is a taboo subject and an impossible place to explore. The little material we have is procured with difficulty just because the access to these entrances is blocked, of course, for your own safety and protection. How vast is this system? How long is going to take to have an initiative to clean, explore and map these tunnels? How can we understand this complicated “machinery” when we have access only to three pistons and two leads? Do you think you can bring more evidence to this discussion? Feel free to drop a picture into the comments!
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Studio photo of King Ye-i-nie from around Cairns, Queensland, 1905.

We've had people write in about Kings and Queens and it seems there's disagreement as to whether we ever had royalty in Australia with some mobs saying we didn't and some saying we did. These terms are very much English ones transplanted from the British system so we need to be aware of that.

Were there ever the equivalent of royalty and "chiefs" and "leaders" among our First Nations? Would be interesting to hear about this from your perspective and from your country.

In some languages there are words for leader or head of a nation/group/clan...
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If anyone is interested in photographic records. It is worth reading Jane Lydon's work on Indigenous representation. www.auswhn.org.au/blog/historicising-photography/

Well atleast one politician is prepared to stand up in parliament and address the concerns over the watering down of Native Title Ownership and also against the Liberal/Adani Mine Corruption... Larissa Waters speech against watering down Native Title

Larissa Waters
The Liberals want their mates, the Adani group to get away with whatever they want on Indigenous land. This is a bit of what I had to say on the issue yesterday. #StopAdani
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How bluddy disgusting, where are all the politicians? An empty house, off getting pissed I suppose, SHAME SHAME SHAME.. who voted those dicks in anyway???

Oh crap I just realized no one voted them in Murdoch put them there.....

Well, Spoken with Real Truths for all of Humanity.🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟

She Gives Me Strength To Know It's Okay To Speak Our Individual Truths.

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1 week ago

Ros Mulder
The Nebra Sky Disk and The Australian Aboriginal Sky Rock. Again The Pleiades is a prominent feature.
Thank you to Dr Semir Osmanagic and Jock Doubleday for information on the sky disk.
Again Ancient Finds tying the past together.

The Nebra Sky Disk and The Australian Aboriginal Sky Rock. Again The Pleiades is a prominent feature.
Thank you to Dr Semir Osmanagic and Jock Doubleday for information on the sky disk.
Again Ancient Finds tying the past together.
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RM: Can you provide any info about the origin of the Sky Rock? (30 miles range)

Shayne Eather! 😍 #amazeballs

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3 weeks ago

Alan VanArsdale
I do not think skin color has much to do with human race. I think skin color can change pretty fast in populations. In some European communities, people of widely varying skin color have long lived side by side. In India, some very dark skinned people appear to be much closer racially to white peoples than any black peoples. Here is a baby confirmed to be of these Nigerian parents born in 2010 in England. Could living in England, as seen in some clones, cause changes in phenotypic expression? The baby is not thought to have any genetic disorders. So assuming no major new influxes of genes into Australia, are Australians going to be blacks in a few thousand years? And everyone in the far North white who does not eat sea food? I think the answer may well be yes.

I do not think skin color has much to do with human race. I think skin color can change pretty fast in populations. In some European communities, people of widely varying skin color have long lived side by side. In India, some very dark skinned people appear to be much closer racially to white peoples than any black peoples. Here is a baby confirmed to be of these Nigerian parents born in 2010 in England. Could living in England, as seen in some clones, cause changes in phenotypic expression? The baby is not thought to have any genetic disorders. So assuming no major new influxes of genes into Australia, are Australians going to be blacks in a few thousand years? And everyone in the far North white who does not eat sea food? I think the answer may well be yes. ... See MoreSee Less

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I agree completely. All this eugenics nonsense doesn't jibe with reality. Two mediocre intellects can and often do have offspring that are genius level, and geniuses often give birth to bif disappointments. The notion that all Americans will be coffee with cream colored should have already been noticeable, but it isnt. This race stuff is not what anyone things it is, it is all an offshoot of social darwinism.

There are different theories about this baby, with no evidence of albinism or other genetic disorders. She may be a unique mutation, or awakening of very long dormant white genes. It may be that over tie such children could found a lineage of racially Nigerian white people. When my wife travels in Honduras with our son, people she does not know insist she can not be the mother of our son. I know darker skinned people can yield lighter skinned people. Dark skin is not always dominant. Over time any race would become white in environments favoring white skin, and dark in ones favoring dark skin. A few places in Europe only, populations retain both light and dark skin over long periods, it seems in those places there are no strong pressures in skin color selection some places in Europe. I think it is possible living in England caused a different phentoypic expression in this baby. Clones can change hair color and skin color in response to environment.

Or his wife banged a white man

Genetic tests show the man in the photo, her husband, is the father.

Their other children are dark skinned.

The little bub looks a little like she has albinism. I guess that was ruled out? I went to school with a very dark skinned friend who had two white biological parents. That must have been a weird moment in the delivery room !

Genetic throwback

skin color eventually mixes out with cross race breeding, something thats always made me wonder is why asian slanted eyes dont seem to breed out?..

We are both brown skinned but our son is white, genes in the family history often emerge at random in later generations. I have heard of these cases of black parents with white children and do not find it so shocking.

It happens. Genetic throwback or albinoism. It reminds us every now n then that we are all the same n skin colour is no difference.

I think that skin color of all types is latent in all humans. albinoism I do not consider to be a true type of skin color, it is a genetic disorder and I do not think it would ever lead to viable white skinned peoples, maybe, but to me not the easiest way that could happen. Rare events like this, will be strongly favored in certain environments. Our phenotypes are small in comparison to our vast genotypes. We have great stores of potentially useful DNA which can jump out on rare to common occasions, and then be selected for when useful. Humans are generalist survival oriented type creatures. Our genome is narrow compared to most animals, but our phenotypic expression is very diverse compared to other species of animals. That is we can come up with a lot of physical adapation really fast, which means we have seen a lot of disasters and changes in environment over time (disasters causing genetic funneling, ability to express diverse phenotypes quickly indicating we often needed to adapt to new environments, or more often changed or changing ones). Maybe they have it wrong, but I suspect they are right and this is not albinoism.

The epicanthic fold like any feature breeds out sometimes. Chinese paleoanthropologists attribute the epicanthic fold as of Homo erectus origins in China. They very well could be correct, or at least near China near Homo erectus in origin. This is thought by some to be an adaptation to extreme cold. So we would expect it would be selected against in hot regions. There is Tang (ancient Chinese), ancestry in Central America. Native peoples there have always known this, and the discovery of the last Tang emperors grave in Central America about 30 years ago confirms this. That is along with the Tang inscription "with our native allies, we have founded a new empire here". Written out one character per jade lined up to give the sentence, they had to bring experts from China to even be able to read it. The epicanthic fold persisted in Central American natives over thousands of years, though it is not common as a pre Columbian paternal lineage Chinese trait. So maybe it is a pretty neutral trait that is favored in extreme cold and not particularly disfavored in other places such as tropical jungles. I have noticed some of the ruling family at Copan (I have been there twice, most of the European looted items from there are returned and housed in a building, much is still in place also), showed the epicanthic fold around 800-1200 AD. Their surname was Chang. Native Americans are not known to have surnames, except as immigrants or Westernized people...

I would have said that the postman, has a lot to answer to.

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2 weeks ago

Mohamed Reda

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From egypt

Was it found in Australia? More info needed!

Looks like Proto-Sinaitic Script. This script is beleieved by some people that eventually evolved inot the Egyptian hieroglyphs as we know them to lok like, etc.

I found them in the desert of Egypt South Sinai and is closed with sulfur and there is something unknown inside I think it is from the era of the Prophet Moses or older than that ?..

Horrible choice to keep a precious object or break it open and maybe see something even more important of find nothing and just have pieces of a great artefact...need an X ray!

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2 weeks ago

Evan William Strong
We are happy to introduce the first of our webinar series covering a wide range of topics related to our ancient past.
We hope you can join us for our first webinar on 18th June 9am (Aussie Eastern Standard Time)/17th June 7pm (New York Time). 
This will be a collective gathering of Original and non-Original Elders and researchers examining different parts of an extremely ancient global history that begins in Australia. In the true sense of that collective approach each participant shares equally in any profits made. 
Many Original Elders knowledgeable in the secret history and mystical pursuits have received nothing but grief and poverty. This is a chance for their wisdom to be acknowledged and paid accordingly. 
The many truths and insights they will share openly paint a completely different history of the world as we knew it in the past, and how it will effect our immediate future. 
Come and join us in discovering the whole truth and nothing but the Original truth in this special 6hr webinar.
Only aud $10 to watch six speakers present an updated version of our history.
Steven and Evan William Strong 
CLICK HERE & REGISTER: https://app.webinarjam.net/register/40269/84550e172f

We are happy to introduce the first of our webinar series covering a wide range of topics related to our ancient past.

We hope you can join us for our first webinar on 18th June 9am (Aussie Eastern Standard Time)/17th June 7pm (New York Time).

This will be a collective gathering of Original and non-Original Elders and researchers examining different parts of an extremely ancient global history that begins in Australia. In the true sense of that collective approach each participant shares equally in any profits made.

Many Original Elders knowledgeable in the secret history and mystical pursuits have received nothing but grief and poverty. This is a chance for their wisdom to be acknowledged and paid accordingly.

The many truths and insights they will share openly paint a completely different history of the world as we knew it in the past, and how it will effect our immediate future.

Come and join us in discovering the whole truth and nothing but the Original truth in this special 6hr webinar.

Only aud $10 to watch six speakers present an updated version of our history.

Steven and Evan William Strong

CLICK HERE & REGISTER: app.webinarjam.net/register/40269/84550e172f
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James Henderson

may I suggest adding this event to the group event page brother?.. 🙂

yeah thanks for reminding me

If I regsiter & pay the $10 do I have access to recordings? or do I have to attend the webinar live?

u should have access to the replay of the recordings

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A Warumungu burial ceremony at Tennant Creek, NT, with men standing over a ritual trench dug into the ground. The approaching women will crawl along the trench between the legs of the men, 1901.

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What an interesting ritual. Would love to hear a description of the pupose amd meaning and context of this. I am intuiting that men are opening them selves to earth, a kind of birthing posture, while the women, more closely associated with the bringing of life, are being reborn from the men and earth...

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Alan VanArsdale

The redefinition of Homo to include Homo habilis is very interesting. How we define a genus is even more subject to bias than how we define a species. A species should not have a lot of gene flow from other species when they are in contact. Too much gene flow we can suspect they are the same species. In mammalian paleontology we already understand that many assignments to species before the Pleistocene are more likely to be at genus level, compared to extant taxa. But we can not see the gene flow usually, and most of the record is not there, so they are assigned a new species, not a new genus, as they are found.
I agree that H. habilis should be in Homo. But it is just as easy for me if a new genus were erected to include known and unknown taxa of very Homo like apes with ape sized brains. It does not change the facts how this is done, either way works fine, and is subjective not absolute. If the habilines had not been found in Africa, I find it unlikely they would now be in Homo. Too late, let them into Homo, we have to let H. floresiensis into Homo also. H. naledi if not found in Africa would be a weird ape man giving even less evidence about human evolution than they do as found in Africa. Letting the habilines into Homo means we also have to let H. naledi in.
So we have three taxa to look at for the new genus, or small brained Homo. H. habilis, H. floresiensis, and H. naledi. It would be easier for us also to shunt H. naledi off to the side and consider they yield no information, but that would not be in the interest of the discovery of truth.
We have to keep in mind that conservative long lived lineages, when seen only late, will also have derived character states in addition to the conservative character states they retain. That is why there was (and to a lesser degree still is), so much confusion as to the status of H. floresiensis, along with the near ancestral relationship of H. floresiensis to H. erectus.
And this is why there is complete confusion about H. nadeli still. One thing H. nadeli is trying to tell us. is that Homo in Africa very quickly was developing secondary African ape like character states. Again, a sort of living fossil along with H. floresiensis. In comparison to H. floresiensis much more ape like, so again pointing a finger towards SE Asia for the origin of more human like small brained Homo or a new genus ancestral to both Homo and all extant African apes. And further debunking notions based upon cultural bias that human evolution is in some way an effort to create an Englishman by lifting up a knuckle walking African ape into an Englishman by a linear series of logical steps. I believe it is more accurate to say the knuckle walking ape evolved from the Englishman, and that the Englishman would not do nearly so well as Tarzan if he tried to live like any ape. That is apes need to be ape like to be well adapted, just as Englishmen need to be, and will be, Englishmen.
H. habilis retaining more conservative traits from the "mystery genus" (small brained Homo), relative to H. naledi and less in comparison to H. floresiensis. But not entirely, we can see H. floresiensis has developed a separate suite of derived character states relative to the suites of derived states seen in H. habilis and H. naledi. So H. nadeli being more African ape like, at a much later date, than the habilines, makes perfect sense. Because Homo was evolving into the Australopithecines, and other African apes, not visa versa. So H. naledi was already further along in their evolutionary path than the habilines by the time of the LCA of H. naledi and Australopithecines compared to the LCA of habilines and Australopithecines.
To me small brained Homo (or the unnamed mystery genus for which the fossil record is so incomplete), flourished upon reaching Africa from Asia, and there had an adaptive radiation, not only being the mother genus of African apes, but also of diverse Homo in Africa which we are not seeing very much of for the small brained varieties. This leads me to think they might have been primarily arboreal, with only a few varieties favoring open terrain and being more likely to be seen in the fossil record. Or course arboreal taxa can some way be transported to more open areas, such as by carnivores or burial customs in the case of H. naledi. So upon reaching Africa as a more generalist taxa, capable of crossing the deserts between Africa and Asia, Homo rapidly exploited the rich arboreal environments where apes had become extinct, and only later started to work on less rich open areas again, as African apes.
H. naledi to me is not so mysterious isolated or hermitous at all. A remnant close to the ancestry of Australopithecines with their fossil record concealed because of arboreal habits. H. naledi might have come out of the dense forest as seen, or they might still be arboreal at this time and are being transported out of dense forests by some mechanism, such as to sequester their dead in caves out of their living areas, or they might be being transported to the caves by some human enemy, in some sort of ritual.
Habilines being fairly close relatives of Asiatic small brained Homo who are already part way on their journey to becoming Africa apes. That is diverging off some place near the divergence between small brained Homo coming into Africa and African apes.
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I don't get this small brain theory can't swallow it!!!!

If we believe in evolution then we believe Humans came from apes with small brains. The original idea was something like this. Chimps are the closest ape we know well, and the first humans were coming from something like a Chimp and became more like humans then got a big brain along the way from the need to use stone tools. Well now we see complex tools being made by small brained Homo floresiensis so the tool thing is pretty well out. And now we know the common ancestor (LCA) between Chimps and humans did not look much like a Chimp. And now our genus, Homo, has been redefined to include apes that look like us but have small brains (say Chimp sized, actually big brains just smaller than ours). And we now know better that brain size does not have SO much to do with intelligence as big wigs like Leakey thought, though of course it is still a factor, not nearly so much in humans as was thought. So a Chimp sized brained human can be a lot smarter than was thought, just as Homo erectus would have been nearly as smart as us, not idiot ape men like in the old movies (with Neandertals just as smart as us already).

The above is not all fully accepted, but is all in the mainstream of science already.

So someone finds Homo habilis, in Africa, and wants a big name for themselves, as the discovers / describers of the oldest member of our genus. Problem is, habalines have small brains. So they redefine the genus Homo to include this guy, which is arbitrary, just as easy to try to pound them into Australopithecines or try to make up a new genus for them. That is words are often just words, they do not need to be how nature really is. There would be different ways to classify habilines and it would all be just as correct. However, I do not agree they should be put in the Australopithecines, but that would seem to fit with current mainstream thinking that Australopithecus is some place close to the ancestry of Homo. You can still read Homo came from Australopithecus, Smithsonian etc... But that is actually bullshit, a good understanding of the literature you know already we did not come exactly from Australopithecus. So I figure either would be right, put habilis into Homo and allow small brained guys that look like us into Homo, or make a genus genus for him.

Wallah, along comes Homo floresiensis, which does not make any sense at all for how mainstream scientists were thinking, makes the look silly in fact. Not only where they are found, how they look also. OK they are some sort of degenerated freaks, just does not work over time. OK, they are Island Dwarfs that came from Homo erectus. That idea has pretty much fallen apart also, though some still do not want to admit that. If floresiensis had been found before habilis, and had been known to be an offshoot from early Homo like apes from the start, then no way floresiensis would have gotten to be Homo, because he does not come from Africa. But too late, they already let habilis in, they have to let floresiensis in, or kick habilis out. Some would like to kick habilis out still, but that is not related to the blasphemy of floresiensis, it is related to the fact that to be human you should have the big Englishman head (which everyone else left alive has also in effect). And habilis has an ape sized head, so that does not work for some people they are human, stupid apes should not be humans. But yet, habilis looks pretty much like us, just the smaller head, so what can one do?

Homo has to come from Africa, that is obvious, because both paleontology and genetics prove living African apes are our closest living relatives. But does that follow? What IF? WHAT IF African apes really come from these ape sized brained humans for which we have three known species already, including Homo naledi? Well Homo naledi is just some sort of freak or hermit that survived the expansion of real men (englishmen and all other humans that look sort of like them), so naledi does not count.

Or does naledi count? Say instead of coming from African apes, they come from us? The whole we come from Australopithecus is not working, they just are not old enough. If you look at the timing of it all, reversing their whole idea works just as well as they have it now, with the new fossils and the new dating for naledi. Heaven forbid, we do not come from African apes, they come from us? Gods perfect order turned on its head. Happens all the time in mammaliam paleontology, but it is pure blasphemy an amateur such as myself, without the holy Teutonic PhD, could execute such a blasphemy.

So turning things on their head, naledi does not have conservative Australopithecus traits and dervied human traits (which makes no sense anyway, so he must be some freak or unimportant freak side show that does not count). Naledi has conservative human traits, and derived Australopithecus traits. So this would make naledi something like floresiensis, a sort of living fossil. Naledi would have branched out shortly after humans were on their way to becoming Australopithecus. The hip being the first thing to become more ape like, as the hip would see the most pressure upon it as the guy bent down, the feet and legs would see less pressure from new quadrupedalism and so in this case have no real need to get ape like. Naledi being an Australopithecus off shoot also requires him to be a sort of living fossil, so either way, a sot of living fossil. But my way, he is a close ancesgtor of Australopithecus and Australopithecus is no place close to human ancestry at all, just another dead end African ape lineage. It is interesting that living African apes have very little fossil record, less so than the genus Homo even. Indicates there can have been a lot of apes we do not know so much about in Africa. Even a lot of human like apes, or small brained Homo.

So if we get the monkey out of man (the African ape), THEN Africa no longer has to be the origin of the genus Homo. instead of Homo having to go to Asia, because Homo came from African apes, African apes come from Homo. So Homo can come from Africa, Asia, Europe, or even Australia (not America or Antarctica). Or some combination of these.

Now look at all the small brained Homo. What do they look like most other than their African ape offspring? Just one African ape dated at 7 million years, and a MESS of Asiatic apes. Then add floresiensis to the picture, where does it seem Homo came from? Some place around Flores Island, that is where, and this become by far the simplest answer to the origin of Homo.

IF we accept African apes closely related to Homo came from small brained Homo, THEN Asia becomes the most likely homeland for Homo. They try to say this does not work on many points, none of their arguments are valid or hold up. True, their idea may be correct, but they can not refute that my idea is also potentially correct and takes a lot less completely hidden (in the fossil record) migrations. Only takes one taxa to create an adaptive radiation, that would be the ancestor of Homo floresiensis. With one swoop, this explaisn how floresiensis got where he is, he was about there the whole time. And where would this ancestor be most likely to be? The closer to Flores Island the better, but certainly NOT in Africa. There are genetic barriers between Africa and Flores Island for the genus Homo, but not for Asia and Europe. And the barrier for Australia is actually softer with Flores Island, than for Africa with Flores Island. So IF we consider this alternative possibility, Australia is more likely as the origin of Homo than Africa. I am not going to say it is Australia to make anyone happy, the most likely origin of Homo if my hypothesis is correct (and it can not be refuted at this time, just as Africa can not be refuted in case we really do come from African apes as they think), is SE Asia. Imagine that, SE Asian gooks and ex colonialist puppets sitting n the origin of Homo.... MAYBE if we are all white niggers, then Africa would have been by a stretch acceptable, as there was no evidence for Europe as the origin of Homo. But SE Asia, where gooks first drove white men out in a ground war, how detestable! Of course this is a parody they are ot really that bad. But there are still very many racist and class bigotry undertones in paleoanthropology, for sure, and not just in relation to my hypothesis.

A lot easier for the most conservative member of the genus Homo to have been around Flores all along, than for there to be some huge migration event completely unknown in the fossil record. Actually two huge events. All those Asian apes coming from Africa, with no fossil record of it, and it would require at least three out of Africa ape events (if not more). And getting Homo from Africa to Flores Island, also with no fossil record. The reverse only requires one migration from around Flores to Africa, with no fossil record. To me it is easier to see H. habilis and H. naledi as derived from a H. floresiensis immigrant than to see the first Asian Homo (that would have looked something like floresiensis), as derived from anything known in Africa, or their African ancestor.

I have not put this out in so much detail any place else except on this group. I have just put enough out so they will know there is a potential nail in the coffin of the out of Africa hypothesis for the origin of the genus Homo, and that it was me that first set that nail. This was not all a whim for me as some have suggested. Every since the discovery of H. floresiensis was first announce, I have known there was some SERIOUS problem with the way the mainstream had things. And only recently, after years of study off and on in the context of the new finds, have I figured out how to reconcile an Asian origin of Homo with the obvious fact that African apes are the closest fossil and living relatives of the genus Homo. YET with Asian apes having far ore conservative features of the genus Homo than African apes (characters retained from the common ancestor of humans and all living apes and their fossil relatives are seen much more in Asian than in African apes). NOT an easy problem to solve, however, I believe I have found the solution. And my solution was not found by the Chinese either. They were looking for the solution, but failed to look far enough back in the fossil record to find it. And I know they are shocked by my solution. Only a matter of time, and the parts will fall into place better. My hypothesis does not fall in case the origin of Homo is in Africa. It could survive such an origin, but there would need to be a LOT of fossils of new taxa found in Africa to move the origin of Homo to Africa in case my hypothesis is correct. Not only does an African origin for Homo make little sense if I am correct, it makes little sense if they are correct also. They just can not explain why the more Homo like apes are all in Asia except one more recent one in Africa, for the conservative features of Homo. African apes just do not look like small brained Homo much, but Asiatic apes do. Big brained Homo looks more like African apes, but still not much, that might be due to monkey business between humans and apes in Africa shortly after the split (as indicated by genetics). I figure small brained Homo had the ape count of chromosomes, and when the big push on brain size came, it was protected from ape genes (mostly), by a chance in chromosome number. So if a competent attempt is made to get DNA from floresiensis (which has not been done yet, it was botched), then you heard it here first. Ape chromosome count for H. floresiensis. That also explains why H. floresiensis and H. naledi were able to last so long without being swamped by big brained Homo gene flow. That is without remarkable / unlikely invocations of genetic isolation , unknown migrations, or freakishism as in the mainstream now. Like apes, they were genetically isolated from big brain humans by having the same chromosome count as living apes do.

So on the basis of a shared chromosome count number with apes, small brained Homo should be assigned a new genus. But it works just as well for me to put them in Homo. A single genus, or even species, can have more than one chromosome count in the contained taxa. So if my hypothesis is correct, gibbons may be the only living ape which did not come from a human like ape sized brain ancestor, with a missing fossil record of 6-8 million years or so. And full bipedalism is a shared trait with Homo and gibbons that they have retained together since their common ancestor, and all of their descendants that are not fully bipedal once were fully bipedal. That may seem a remarkable gap in the fossil record, but if the gap is around Flores Island, it would be expected, as Orangs have a gap of their fossil record of about the same length, also around Flores Island. And the gap is not so big as it looks, at the base, there are a lot of Asiatic and one African ape splitting off, giving us some more ideas on how early Homo looked. The first homo being around 12 million years ago, or 10-18 million years ago. Yes for paleoanthropologists that can seem a ridiculous long time. I am a Neogene mammalian paleontologist, for me it would not be any sort of surprise at all that such a gap and hidden origin could come out for a primarily arboreal mammalian Asiatic / African clade. I think that covers the gist of it. Those of you who made it this far, by now, can see that my hypothesis was not on a whim or thrown together without any study of the available evidence and literature. Nor is it anything that will go away by trying to ignore it. I was at one point mistaken for Adam van Arsdale (who is involved with H. floresiensis), and for a moment my hypothesis was of interest to a prominent paleoanthropologist. The truth can not be starved to death or murdered. I am right or I am wrong, time will tell, and since my hypothesis was made public, just a little while ago, two things have gone very strongly in its favor in the literature. The young date on naledi, and the cladistic study showing H. floresiensis is as conservative, or more conservative, than any known member of the genus Homo. Not long ago, I was harshly criticised on face book by worthy members of the order of teutonic knights who claimed my opinions had no merit without the PhD, and that I should keep my heresy to myself.

That is a few months ago, I was attacked by a chorus of PhD's and their groupies on face book. On the basis that my idea that H. floresiensis did not come from H. erectus, or was more conservative than H. erectus, had already been suggested (true), and already been thoroughly disproven (false). Now the mainstream literature indicates I was correct, and the chorus was wrong (including some paleoanthropologists).

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Yonaguni Monument 360° - part 2
Underwater view, Yonaguni Ryukyu Archipelago, Japan 🇯🇵

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Bruce R. Fenton

Having a quiet Saturday night at home? Take a listen to James Bartley and I having a bit of a chat about human origins.Part 2: www.thecosmicswitchboard.com/2017/05/11/bruce-fenton-interview/ Bruce Fenton, the author of "Forgotten Exodus: The Into Africa Theory of Huma... ... See MoreSee Less